Topic: Taylor Fouls

[HoPPy785]

I live out of town and listen to the majority of games on the Marshall app. For those of you watching the games, why does Taylor foul so much? Is it bad luck, poor defensive technique, aggressiveness? Seems like he is in foul trouble very often.

[Banshee]

I live out of town and listen to the majority of the games on the Marshall app. For those of you watching the games, why does Taylor foul so much? Is it bad luck, poor defensive technique, aggressiveness? Seems like he is in fouls trouble very often.

IMO it's pretty simple:  he's 6'5" and after others drive by our guys it's him and Kelly to guard the rim, and he's A:  not quick enough against guards and/or B:  not big enough against bigs.  It's just a result of coach D's system and being undersized as a team.  Kelly is MU's biggest O cog and is on orders from coach to not foul, so there's not a lot of others that can be physical/guard the hoop.  It's really an impossible position to be in and I also think that he's kind of being picked on by the refs since he has a rep for fouling and he's now getting some T's when he shows his "displeasure" w/ some of these calls and together they kind of snowball.

[herdfifteen]

Great analysis Banshee.

[MUther]

He needs to learn to set his feet.  A lot of those fouls he gets would go the other way if he'd stop moving just prior to the contact.  That's all the refs are looking for to determine offensive or defensive foul.  He knew he was moving and to then mouth off to the refs was just turning a bad play into worse. 

[The Right Stuff]

On one last night he absolutely didn't move and they called it on him. Ryan was just standing there with his hands up. >:(

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[tat7493]

IMO his feet get him in trouble. He doesn't have the quickness to stop these guards driving to the hoop. One call was BS last night on him, the others were legit from my vantage point. Other teams have made note of this and drive right at him.

[mxman870]

He needs to learn to set his feet.  A lot of those fouls he gets would go the other way if he'd stop moving just prior to the contact.  That's all the refs are looking for to determine offensive or defensive foul.  He knew he was moving and to then mouth off to the refs was just turning a bad play into worse. 

I watched the replay this morning and I am by no means a lip reader but it looked to me all he said was NO.

Great game to watch and the kid hit a heck of a (lucky) shot at the end to win.

[coalherd]

IMO it's pretty simple:  he's 6'5" and after others drive by our guys it's him and Kelly to guard the rim, and he's A:  not quick enough against guards and/or B:  not big enough against bigs.  It's just a result of coach D's system and being undersized as a team.  Kelly is MU's biggest O cog and is on orders from coach to not foul, so there's not a lot of others that can be physical/guard the hoop.  It's really an impossible position to be in and I also think that he's kind of being picked on by the refs since he has a rep for fouling and he's now getting some T's when he shows his "displeasure" w/ some of these calls and together they kind of snowball.

Another key problem is, frankly, our guards as a group lack good foot speed/quickness on defense.  Hamilton light speed quicker and drove by 2, 3 of our defenders to get easy layups and short shots at the hoop.  LA Tech's team speed was painfully noticeable.  Danny D's philosophy of relying on WV hoops prospects FIRST is going to have to be assessed because you're not going to have a lot of team quickness with 5, 6 or more in state recruits topped off by 4 slow European players!!  Chuck Landon's column today correctly pointed out how LA Tech , particularly Hamilton drove right by our defenders right to the basket.  Unfortunately, as noted either Kelly or Taylor are the last line of defense.  Can't just tell them to back off every time and not to make some effort to defend, even when they are with a serious quickness disadvantage against players like Hamilton

[Herdalum83]

Another key problem is, frankly, our guards as a group lack good foot speed/quickness on defense.  Hamilton light speed quicker and drove by 2, 3 of our defenders to get easy layups and short shots at the hoop.  LA Tech's team speed was painfully noticeable.  Danny D's philosophy of relying on WV hoops prospects FIRST is going to have to be assessed because you're not going to have a lot of team quickness with 5, 6 or more in state recruits topped off by 4 slow European players!!  Chuck Landon's column today correctly pointed out how LA Tech , particularly Hamilton drove right by our defenders right to the basket.  Unfortunately, as noted either Kelly or Taylor are the last line of defense.  Can't just tell them to back off every time and not to make some effort to defend, even when they are with a serious quickness disadvantage against players like Hamilton

Here we go, we've lost a few in a row again and now the WV boys are the problem. But, the reality is one of the issues is an Ohio player who needs less time while a WV boy needs more time for the exact reasons you mentioned, because he would up our team speed. In my opinion Burks should see more minutes than Loop, because he is a better, quicker defender, and unlike Loop he can create his own shot.

[coalherd]

Yeah, right, it was ONLY Loop that Hamilton beat off the dribble time after time on the way to easy lay-ups and 38 points!!

[DC01HERD]

Here we go, we've lost a few in a row again and now the WV boys are the problem. But, the reality is one of the issues is an Ohio player who needs less time while a WV boy needs more time for the exact reasons you mentioned, because he would up our team speed. In my opinion Burks should see more minutes than Loop, because he is a better, quicker defender, and unlike Loop he can create his own shot.

I agree. Burks needs more playing time. He matches up well against LA Tech and UAB. Loop is a shooter. He needs to be fresh to be an asset. Burks can match up with the guys on tech and UAB.

[Herdfan2005]

He didn't get to the rim many times on an isolation.  Many were off of high ball screens.  Help defense got there late which caused a foul.  He was 12-15 from the line. 

[MUther]

Kind of an side note but I hate it when our guys go to trap on the wings and don't seal the baseline.  Too many times they come out to trap and almost force the guy into an easy route to the basket right down the baseline and no one backfills to the basket leaving an easy layup or assist opportunity.  Saw that at least 4 times last night and in many other games as well.

[Herdfan2005]

I have noticed that too.  Dantoni forces everything baseline but the bottom guy only gets a good trap in the corner 25% of the time.