Topic: The Herd AD says... (take 2)

[The E-Man]

Guys this isn't some intern posting on Twitter. This is what Hamrick is saying on his radio show. Herdzone account is simply live tweeting the show. (For the non -twitterers, this means The @herdzone account is quoting what Hamrick is saying on his show and posting it to Twitter.)

This is 100% straight from our ADs mouth.

Confirmed! strait from the horses mouth, or from his ass! I like Hamrick, but he's being an ass big time and not "respecting all Herd Fans"

[wasbarryb]

Hamrick is in melt down mode and he's taking the program with him.

[The E-Man]

Hamrick is in melt down mode and he's taking the program with him.

Hamrick hired Doc, and I'm sure he's feeling the heat. But why take it out on the (22,000 fans that aren't BG members). What if they decide to boycott the rest of the season and then what? Hamrick can only blame himself for saying to stay away and he doesn't need them. I agree this thing is going to get worse!

[herd2win]

There has to be context with these quotes...need to hear the entire interview..Mike needs to be pulled aside if this is how he feels because he is doing a lot of damage to the fans that count the most.

MU is more to me than an AD making stupid quotes.  We need to bring solutions and not be quitters...send emails to the university President...let him know your thoughts..call MUs board of governors and express your concerns..but don't stop being a Herd fan because of the AD.

[CharlestonHerdGuy]

Hamrick is in melt down mode ...

Exactly.  You nailed it here.  This isn't just an off year, and he knows it.  An off year would be 4 and 3.  Getting blown out by Akron and beat by Charlotte is a catastrophe.

[QuickStrike]

Screw Hamrick the arrogant prick.

[CharlestonHerdGuy]

There has to be context with these quotes...need to hear the entire interview.

Probably true. Tweeting this stuff is a huge mistake.

[svherd]

He is being honest.  I have said before if you don't donate and support the program you have no reason to complain.  Just like voting. 


There are plenty of people that don't donate and support the program yet they sit around and complain.  Trust me I know.  And the fact that there is a decent amount of people that didn't renew their BG memberships is quite sad especially when some can afford it. Sure I understand that some can't but not all.

There are tons of people who buy single game tickets that don't give to the BG or MU in general. To dismiss them so easily is a very shortsighted and dangerous way of thinking. Marshall is treading on thin ice. If they can't take the heat, get out of the fire. Better yet, do something to fix the current situation. Blows me away they deflect this on the fans and not the real issue - our poor performance on the football field. MU officials must leave in the land of make believe. Wow!

[goherd24]

I am pissed. I give around  $350 a year to the BG, admittedly, i could give more. But why? Why would i give more to a program with an asshat like Hamrick telling fans they dont matter? They are the reason the school has a football team. Stop showing up and see how it goes for them.

I have said i would cancel it before but i havent out of love and loyalty to Marshall. This ole boy is calling at 9am tomorrow, and cancelling my BG membership and citing hamricks attack on fans and not committed t winning as the reason. Funny thing, was headed to hattiesburg at 5am tomorrow, F IT, we are just going to new orleans now, i will not be at another marshall game this season.

Hamrick owes the fans an apology.

[lexkyherdfan]

Some of you can't read.  He read if you a supporter of course you can complain.  He never said that those that support shouldn't complain.  Go back and look at the tweets.

[lexkyherdfan]

I am pissed. I give around  $350 a year to the BG, admittedly, i could give more. But why? Why would i give more to a program with an asshat like Hamrick telling fans they dont matter? They are the reason the school has a football team. Stop showing up and see how it goes for them.

I have said i would cancel it before but i havent out of love and loyalty to Marshall. This ole boy is calling at 9am tomorrow, and cancelling my BG membership and citing hamricks attack on fans and not committed t winning as the reason. Funny thing, was headed to hattiesburg at 5am tomorrow, F IT, we are just going to new orleans now, i will not be at another marshall game this season.

Hamrick owes the fans an apology.

Did you not read what he actually said?  He said if you support the program you have a right to complain.  Go back and reread again.   He was pretty clear he was talking about those that don't support yet complain.

[lexkyherdfan]

There are tons of people who buy single game tickets that don't give to the BG or MU in general. To dismiss them so easily is a very shortsighted and dangerous way of thinking. Marshall is treading on thin ice. If they can't take the heat, get out of the fire. Better yet, do something to fix the current situation. Blows me away they deflect this on the fans and not the real issue - our poor performance on the football field. MU officials must leave in the land of make believe. Wow!

No he isn't dismissing them. He is talking about people that want to complain yet when they are asked to help out they have every excuse in the book to not help out.  Trust me here have been plenty of begging in a nice way to get new donors and supporters and I know personally that and still get the shaft.

[svherd]

Some of you can't read.  He read if you a supporter of course you can complain.  He never said that those that support shouldn't complain.  Go back and look at the tweets.

Not the damn point. Who gives a crap if someone complains on a message board. If Mike and the MU brass are this thin skinned, they need to get in another line of work. If people didn't complain, that means they don't care. He must be too damn stupid to understand that. Wow, the people in the AD aren't as bright as I thought. Do your job and correct the situation Mike!

[goherd24]

Did you not read what he actually said?  He said if you support the program you have a right to complain.  Go back and reread again.   He was pretty clear he was talking about those that don't support yet complain.

He said that fans that are not BG members opinions do not matter. They absolutely do. That attitude is not going to win you any new BG members, or season ticket holders. Hell, i bet many season ticket holders will not be now. And maybe more BG members will cancel based on wht seems to be a concious effort to defend this worthless coaching staff so much, that they are willing to attack the damn fans that pay their salaries. When you stop listening to your customers, they stop being customers. Thats exactly what fans are and Hamrick is out of line.

Just wait til about 13 or 15k show up the rest of the season. Hamrick brought that on himself.

[lexkyherdfan]

He said that fans that are not BG members opinions do not matter. They absolutely do. That attitude is not going to win you any new BG members, or season ticket holders. Hell, i bet many season ticket holders will not be now. And maybe more BG members will cancel based on wht seems to be a concious effort to defend this worthless coaching staff so much, that they are willing to attack the damn fans that pay their salaries. When you stop listening to your customers, they stop being customers. Thats exactly what fans are and Hamrick is out of line.

Just wait til about 13 or 15k show up the rest of the season. Hamrick brought that on himself.

So you expect the AD to come out and publicly criticize the Head Coach?  Get real. You wouldn't want your boss to call you out publicly. He also talked about having a good group of 22,000 people which all of younkn here are in that number.  I find it funny he can't call out some pretender fans yet some feel like it is ok to verbally attack a college student because he is struggling.

[svherd]

This attitude is the exact reason we only have 3K BG members. Wow, how arrogant.

[lexkyherdfan]

Not the damn point. Who gives a crap if someone complains on a message board. If Mike and the MU brass are this thin skinned, they need to get in another line of work. If people didn't complain, that means they don't care. He must be too damn stupid to understand that. Wow, the people in the AD aren't as bright as I thought. Do your job and correct the situation Mike!

You really don't get it. My god so you are now are taking up for those that constantly complain yet don't do a thing to help the program?  We will never grow if people don't help out and do nothing but complain. Mike made it clear YOU can complain if you support the program. Maybe you are a BG member or a season ticket holder.  Those are the ones he is not talking about.

[goherd24]

So you expect the AD to come out and publicly criticize the Head Coach?  Get real. You wouldn't want your boss to call you out publicly. He also talked about having a good group of 22,000 people which all of younkn here are in that number.  I find it funny he can't call out some pretender fans yet some feel like it is ok to verbally attack a college student because he is struggling.

Are you kidding me? So its ok for him to criticize the fans???? But not the damn reason for the team under performing?

It is on the coach. If he isn't going to criticize the coaches, he should not criticize the fans for saying what needs to be said. It would be easy to say

"Yeah, the fans are upset. Its not Marshall football to be losing in cusa. We have some things to address and I am sure Doc will address them".

Any variation of that. But saying "Well, FU if you don't dnate, you don't matter" and "our coaches are motivated, they won 33 games the last few years so back off".


Thats sending a clear message that he believes its alright to he 2-5 in CUSA. That is NEVER acceptable to a true Marshall fan. We should expect better and hold those accountable that are.

he can ignore a single bee here and there, but Hamrick just kicked the hive. The fans and their wallets will have the last word in this mess.

[lexkyherdfan]

This attitude is the exact reason we only have 3K BG members. Wow, how arrogant.

What attitude?  The real reason there are only 3,000 or so members is because want something for nothing.  Trust me I know this for a fact and when I see and know who aren't donors it is really sad.  And it doesn't matter how much I personally ask and beg them.

How many new members have you recruited this year?   If each member would recruit just one we would double our membership.  I added 2 yesterday because I asked them.

[The E-Man]

This attitude is the exact reason we only have 3K BG members. Wow, how arrogant.

This^ Let me take you back to the K.O. and Snide years. I met a cat that had very very deep pockets. The We Are Marshall Movie had just came out and he was in town on business. Long story short, this man wanted to do something for Marshall. I invited him to meet me for lunch at the Big Green QB club. I introduced this man to both K.O. and Snides, they both blew him off. The man had a 25 k, check written out to Marshall. After they wouldn't acknowledge him, he tore it up and threw it in the trash can. Believe it or not, this really happened.

[goherd24]

You really don't get it. My god so you are now are taking up for those that constantly complain yet don't do a thing to help the program?  We will never grow if people don't help out and do nothing but complain. Mike made it clear YOU can complain if you support the program. Maybe you are a BG member or a season ticket holder.  Those are the ones he is not talking about.

So saying people don't matter unless they go out and pay an extra $50 a year is going to help drive people to spend $50 a year?

Sounds like a winning strategy!

Here is a better one, listen to the fans, make the needed changes in the coaching staff, win, and keep winning to attract more supporters. Especially the p5 games. No one cares if you bear charlotte and fau every year. You have to win the games that require better coaching to get fans and put yourself on the map. This staff can not get it done unless they have out of this world talent that will do it in spite of them, like Cato.


And besides, I don't feel like hamrick gives a %^&* about my opinion anyway, I am a big green member until the morning.

[lexkyherdfan]

Are you kidding me? So its ok for him to criticize the fans???? But not the damn reason for the team under performing?

It is on the coach. If he isn't going to criticize the coaches, he should not criticize the fans for saying what needs to be said. It would be easy to say

"Yeah, the fans are upset. Its not Marshall football to be losing in cusa. We have some things to address and I am sure Doc will address them".

Any variation of that. But saying "Well, FU if you don't dnate, you don't matter" and "our coaches are motivated, they won 33 games the last few years so back off".


Thats sending a clear message that he believes its alright to he 2-5 in CUSA. That is NEVER acceptable to a true Marshall fan. We should expect better and hold those accountable that are.

he can ignore a single bee here and there, but Hamrick just kicked the hive. The fans and their wallets will have the last word in this mess.

He said financial supporters or BG members. Do you not realize people could be supporting the BG in many ways.  They may not be a BG member but maybe giving in another way.

And you think is it ok that someone sets on their couch and complains about a team they don't even support by going to a game or being a donor?  Trust me people complaining is not lost on the AD but those that complain and do nothing to help?  Come on.  That is joke.  I am not happy and expressed my disappointment in the program but he isn't talking to me.  People with thin skin are those that think he is calling them out yet they have season tickets and a BG member. 

[svherd]

What attitude?  The real reason there are only 3,000 or so members is because want something for nothing.  Trust me I know this for a fact and when I see and know who aren't donors it is really sad.  And it doesn't matter how much I personally ask and beg them.

How many new members have you recruited this year?   If each member would recruit just one we would double our membership.  I added 2 yesterday because I asked them.

We pay a director good money to build this group. I have asked several friends and alumni over the years. I have been a BG member since 1989. I think two people joined after I asked; one being my father in law. But back to the point, he is wrong to make those comments even if he believes them to be true. Not in his position. Just very narrow minded.

[lexkyherdfan]

This^ Let me take you back to the K.O. and Snide years. I met a cat that had very very deep pockets. The We Are Marshall Movie had just came out and he was in town on business. Long story short, this man wanted to do something for Marshall. I invited him to meet me for lunch at the Big Green QB club. I introduced this man to both K.O. and Snides, they both blew him off. The man had a 25 k, check written out to Marshall. After they wouldn't acknowledge him, he tore it up and threw it in the trash can. Believe it or not, this really happened.

Key words there ...KO and Snides. 

Now we have a brand new practice facility, sports medicine building, Hall of Fame and student support area.  Doing locker room renovations as well so I believe we have a fundraiser that does get the big fundraisers involved.

[HaveUherd]

You really don't get it. My god so you are now are taking up for those that constantly complain yet don't do a thing to help the program?  We will never grow if people don't help out and do nothing but complain. Mike made it clear YOU can complain if you support the program. Maybe you are a BG member or a season ticket holder.  Those are the ones he is not talking about.

Buying tickets and concessions and spending my time is doing nothing for the program? Marshall doesn't get to use ticket money? Only BG money? Whatever dude...