Topic: coaching staff needs to either set Fancher up for redemption or replace him asap

[Johnnyherd]

All this investment in him and handling him the keys to the kingdom and the label of a leader.

You're not a leader unless you do something that wins everyone's belief/trust in you and your ability.

Saturday he had probably the best situation he could have ever asked for to cement himself as our QB of the present and future.

He had the full support of his team and coaches.  He had all the 1st string reps all spring and summer and the OC personally tutoring him.  He was at home and he was against an inferior opponent.

It was his chance to show out and erase all doubters and it did not work to say the least.

So the coaches need to make him throw the ball and make him run the ball against ECU and give him the opportunity to acquit himself for disappearing Saturday and establish himself as a leader and our QB.

[herdorbust2]

Good grief another thread about Fancher. He isn't Dan Marino but 268 yds and 80% completions isn't exactly worth getting hammered over and over. Maybe we could blame more than one guy? Like fumbles, missed tackles, penalties, taking the opponent for granted? Let's see how ECU goes.

[Herdiowa]

It?s fish or cut bait time.

[goherd24]

Good grief another thread about Fancher. He isn't Dan Marino but 268 yds and 80% completions isn't exactly worth getting hammered over and over. Maybe we could blame more than one guy? Like fumbles, missed tackles, penalties, taking the opponent for granted? Let's see how ECU goes.

. Those stats are completely misleading, and you know it. 268 yards - YAC, and he has 60 yards 1 td and 1 INT. We were 0-2 with an INT in throws over 10 yards.

We have to have better QB play and a threat to make them defend the whole field, or Ali won't be able to do anything either. Fancher could AT LEAST pull some hand offs and keep them to make them defend that, but we tries to be a pocket passer that can't pass

[muherd34]

Good grief another thread about Fancher. He isn't Dan Marino but 268 yds and 80% completions isn't exactly worth getting hammered over and over. Maybe we could blame more than one guy? Like fumbles, missed tackles, penalties, taking the opponent for granted? Let's see how ECU goes.

It's funny you would knock anyone about starting multiple threads on one subject, lol.  But I do agree with you on some points.  It was a team disaster, complete dog poop game.  But Fancher was not good at all, plain and simple.  Unless you didn't watch the game at all or watched it with Kelly Green sunglasses while drinking green kool-aid you know where we stand at qb.  Now maybe he comes out and grows as a qb l, but that has not happened yet.  I have seen 0 improvement from last year until this year.  Yes, crappy secondary play, horrible Oline play(suprised more people aren't worried about oline)and poor special teams play.  Just all around a bad team effort from coaches, players, band and the water boy. 

[herdorbust2]

It's funny you would knock anyone about starting multiple threads on one subject, lol.  But I do agree with you on some points.  It was a team disaster, complete dog poop game.  But Fancher was not good at all, plain and simple.  Unless you didn't watch the game at all or watched it with Kelly Green sunglasses while drinking green kool-aid you know where we stand at qb.  Now maybe he comes out and grows as a qb l, but that has not happened yet.  I have seen 0 improvement from last year until this year.  Yes, crappy secondary play, horrible Oline play(suprised more people aren't worried about oline)and poor special teams play.  Just all around a bad team effort from coaches, players, band and the water boy.

7-1 or 8-1 as a starter now? Yep no doubt he can get better as anyone can. Maybe the team can clean up the penalties and fumbles etc,,,, all we here about is I don't care if we win by one point as long as we win. Or I don't care what we wear as long as we win. Well he is about 8-1 as a starter but it's not good enough. 

[elginherd]

It's funny you would knock anyone about starting multiple threads on one subject, lol.  But I do agree with you on some points.  It was a team disaster, complete dog poop game.  But Fancher was not good at all, plain and simple.  Unless you didn't watch the game at all or watched it with Kelly Green sunglasses while drinking green kool-aid you know where we stand at qb.  Now maybe he comes out and grows as a qb l, but that has not happened yet.  I have seen 0 improvement from last year until this year.  Yes, crappy secondary play, horrible Oline play(suprised more people aren't worried about oline)and poor special teams play.  Just all around a bad team effort from coaches, players, band and the water boy.

Exceptiing the the blocked FG, and the near pin-back on that short punt with what would've beeen an exceptional play by the gunner, the STs were not a game-long disaster.

And to disagree about Fancher's improvement, he did consistantly hit the easy passes, though not always with precise ball-placement. Last season the easy passes were an adventure.
Fancher did make a few plays with his legs.

However, as stated before reading the stat line is completely misleading. Fancher was not good downfield at all. All of the passing attack was basically (as they say) an extension of the running game. I do not recall a single completed pass that was thrown beyond the sticks. This offense would be healthier if he'd thrown for the 268 yds on 63% with a long TD of 45 yds (not YAC) and that slant for a TD with a pass not thrown behind the WR.

[FilmJunky]

Is Fancher really the issue here? Hard to make much out of week one. Was it a revised game plan to not be on film? I don't think any of us are sure what it was. There were not many downfield passing plays called which if you have no rhythm. As far as the O line play mentioned above I'm not sure what anyone is referring to. Fancher was upright all night and never once sacked and the herd averaged 5.6 yards per carry.

Fancher is now 7-1 as the starter and in college football as far as coaches go. WINS MATTER. This isn't a Chad Pennington or Leftwich or Cato high flying offense as bad as all of you want it to be.

It was clear short passes and screens were teh gameplan so I'm not exactly sure what yuo want Fancher to do in that situation. Maybe whine about coaches not developing him or having a better game plan to suit everyones wishes.

[Rockin Herd Fan]

Fancher may not be the answer at QB, but IMO the Herd's poor performance falls directly onto Huff.  The team did not look prepared to play.  The team sleepwalked through the first half and kept Albany in the game long enough that they gained confidence that they could play with us.  Once Marshall's offense started going up-tempo in the 2nd half they moved the ball pretty easily.  Even though there are areas of concern on the team, this game falls directly on Huff and his staff.