Topic: Just an FYI

[svherd]

Dan deserves another year, no doubt.

Curious as to how this seasons schedule ranks compared to previous years.

[herdorbust2]

Really sad Goherd24 has such a defeatist attitudes his theory is the present can't be better than the past. To think how much of a stretch it would be for us to be 25-2 right now. How could we ever have beat Queens and mighty Monroe? How could I even think such a thing lol!!! But you are right!!! I don't think we can beat those teams because our fanbase doesn't expect it. How sad!!!

[herdorbust2]

Not sure if you realize it, but when you play 30+ games, in a 5 player game, you're gonna have some off nights and lose some. Even Duke, and UNC lose some.

We aren't them. Get your head out of your ass, flip. No reason to be so dang negative when we are 21-6 with all our goals ahead of us. Currently having the fewest losses in 30 years and it isn't good enough for you lololol

Well it's hard to be positive when we expect to lose to Queens and Monroe!!! Yes teams sometimes get upset. But you act like we couldn't have beat those teams and had just 2 losses. But some people just don't expect to beat the little sisters of the poor unless their name is Bowling Green I guess!!!

[gochneaur645]

Play enough games against D1 teams, especially road games, and you're going to lose some of them. Even Gonzaga occasionally loses games to Loyola Marymount or some other random WCC team.

Yeah those Queens and ULM losses suck, but you can acknowledge that and want to try to improve while also realizing that 21-6 is more good than bad. Expecting Marshall to go 29-2 or something against any D1 schedule is moving the goalpost (or rim?) way too far.

[herdorbust2]

Play enough games against D1 teams, especially road games, and you're going to lose some of them. Even Gonzaga occasionally loses games to Loyola Marymount or some other random WCC team.

Yeah those Queens and ULM losses suck, but you can acknowledge that and want to try to improve while also realizing that 21-6 is more good than bad. Expecting Marshall to go 29-2 or something against any D1 schedule is moving the goalpost (or rim?) way too far.

All I know is we should have won those 4 games. Overwhelming favorites. I just find it odd that people just think we can't win those games because upsets happen. I'll bet George Mason fans thought it was nuts to think they would ever reach a final 4. I'll bet Ohio I never expected to be in a sweet 16. I'll bet Chattanooga never thought they would be in a sweet 16. I'll bet Indiana St never thought they would ever go 30-1. VCU, Butler, Loyola-Chicago. There are so many that have exceeded expectations. But at Marshall let's just hope for a 3 day run.

[herd2win]

Play enough games against D1 teams, especially road games, and you're going to lose some of them. Even Gonzaga occasionally loses games to Loyola Marymount or some other random WCC team.

Yeah those Queens and ULM losses suck, but you can acknowledge that and want to try to improve while also realizing that 21-6 is more good than bad. Expecting Marshall to go 29-2 or something against any D1 schedule is moving the goalpost (or rim?) way too far.

Not when you schedule 12 easy wins.  We are a decent team.  There seems to be enough talent to be better.  The frustration is the sloppy play and lack of effort in regards to rebounding and defense.  We have 20 win seasons built in now with our schedule.

[Herdalum83]

The next level is beating teams like Queens, UNCG, Georgia Southern and Monroe. I'll even accept the losses to JMU at Home and Louisiana on the road although those both were very winnable also. But the previous 4 losses were unacceptable and kept us from being 25-2 at this point and being around 25th or just outside the top 25 like FAU. That is the next level when you are being put in the spotlight during the regular season and not just a 3 day run. And I'm tired of hearing about all that matters is a 3 day run. A program is built on more than that and can be built on more than that unless that is all that is expected.

So if we go 25-6, then win the SBC tourney to be 28-6. That's not a good season, just a good 3-day run, huh? You're a freaking Maroon man.

To have the audacity to spout the BS you have over the last month or so is truly laughable. Idk why anyone on this board even takes you seriously. For YEARS you've been overselling the basketball team, overhyping every mediocre player that had one half-decent practice.

Making excuse after excuse when we had LEGITIMATELY bad seasons like last year and now all of a sudden when the team is in the middle of what could arguably turn out to be its best season since the 1980s you've done a total 180 and have nothing but negativity to spout constantly.

It's even funnier when you take into consideration you spent the better part of the first month and a half of the season telling everyone how losing to Queens really wasn't that bad. But, now all of a sudden that game is unacceptable. You're a joke.

[goherd24]

Not when you schedule 12 easy wins.  We are a decent team.  There seems to be enough talent to be better.  The frustration is the sloppy play and lack of effort in regards to rebounding and defense.  We have 20 win seasons built in now with our schedule.

Be a hell of a lot more 20 win teams if it was that easy. 115 teams had schedules worse than ours. How many 20 win teams are there right now in the NCAA?  42 total. Out of 356. We are top 75 NET and top 100 massey, and most other ratings. We are likely going to be one of a hand full of programs to finish with 25+ wins. We have had far worse schedules in far worse leagues, and not done this well plenty in our past.

We can still win the league title and an NCAA birth.

Why. Are. You. Bitching. So. Much?

Because you are mad Dan shut you out of practice, and you've got a negative agenda, fliporflop. That's why.

[herd2win]

Be a hell of a lot more 20 win teams if it was that easy. 115 teams had schedules worse than ours. How many 20 win teams are there right now in the NCAA?  42 total. Out of 356. We are top 75 NET and top 100 massey, and most other ratings. We are likely going to be one of a hand full of programs to finish with 25+ wins. We have had far worse schedules in far worse leagues, and not done this well plenty in our past.

We can still win the league title and an NCAA birth.

Why. Are. You. Bitching. So. Much?

I have never been to 1 practice as I don't live near the area.  I have said we are a decent team but also seen spurts where we look like we can be special.  I hate to waste Kinsey's year when if we played a little smarter and gave effort in blocking out and defense we maybe can do some damage in the tourney.

Because you are mad Dan shut you out of practice, and you've got a negative agenda, fliporflop. That's why.

[gochneaur645]

All I know is we should have won those 4 games. Overwhelming favorites. I just find it odd that people just think we can't win those games because upsets happen. I'll bet George Mason fans thought it was nuts to think they would ever reach a final 4. I'll bet Ohio I never expected to be in a sweet 16. I'll bet Chattanooga never thought they would be in a sweet 16. I'll bet Indiana St never thought they would ever go 30-1. VCU, Butler, Loyola-Chicago. There are so many that have exceeded expectations. But at Marshall let's just hope for a 3 day run.

Indiana State had Larry Bird. Get the next coming of him in Huntington, and okay, I'll expect 30-1.

VCU had 11 losses and finished 4th in the CAA the year they went to the Final Four.

Chattanooga and Ohio never would have had the chance to exceed expectations in the tourney without 3 day runs so I'm not sure what you're arguing?

[Gaylen]

I would not mind Bob Bolen getting a chance at Marshall.

[herdorbust2]

Indiana State had Larry Bird. Get the next coming of him in Huntington, and okay, I'll expect 30-1.

VCU had 11 losses and finished 4th in the CAA the year they went to the Final Four.

Chattanooga and Ohio never would have had the chance to exceed expectations in the tourney without 3 day runs so I'm not sure what you're arguing?

But they did it!!! Stop spinning it. Queens and Monroe at home were embarrassing losses period!!!

[bighat]

Bust why are we selling out all the time with reduced seats.

[herdorbust2]

Be a hell of a lot more 20 win teams if it was that easy. 115 teams had schedules worse than ours. How many 20 win teams are there right now in the NCAA?  42 total. Out of 356. We are top 75 NET and top 100 massey, and most other ratings. We are likely going to be one of a hand full of programs to finish with 25+ wins. We have had far worse schedules in far worse leagues, and not done this well plenty in our past.

We can still win the league title and an NCAA birth.

Why. Are. You. Bitching. So. Much?

Because you are mad Dan shut you out of practice, and you've got a negative agenda, fliporflop. That's why.

Lol if you say so!!! Because we lost 6 games we never should have lost. 4 to nobodies kind of like Bowling Green 24. You remember them don't you? Oh I forgot, upsets never happen in football just basketball lol!!!

[herdorbust2]

Bust why are we selling out all the time with reduced seats.

I guess because it's reduced seats? Duh!!!

[Flat Tire 2]

The win total debate is interesting, but when you look at our schedule it is underwhelming. Per today's Net the highest ranked teams we have played are Southern Miss at #58 and JMU at #88. The out of conference was weakened and that has helped to improve our record. Also, the SBC is an average mid major conference at best.  Toledo is #97 and Akron at #103 are our highest ranking non conference teams we have played. We usually play at least one money game at a P5 school and that was removed to make the schedule easier. You could go undefeated with our schedule and we would be still lucky to receive a few votes in the polls. Voters look at the teams you have beat at MU level of basketball.

If some of you are happy with that, then good for you. I would like to have a Marshall team do well against the big boys and win some games in the NIT or NCAA before I get excited.  A start would be to win the regular season title or the tourney, that would be the first big step for me.

[ThunderCat98]

Chris Beard, Tom Crean, Gregg Marshall, John Brannen. All would own this league.

For the love of God, NOT Creepy Crean. Dude looks like a pedophile.

[Big City]

Let's please stop with the petty pissing contest. I have received several complaints about the unnecessary back and forth.

[Garbanjo]

For the love of God, NOT Creepy Crean. Dude looks like a pedophile.

Crean is done imo

[herdorbust2]

The win total debate is interesting, but when you look at our schedule it is underwhelming. Per today's Net the highest ranked teams we have played are Southern Miss at #58 and JMU at #88. The out of conference was weakened and that has helped to improve our record. Also, the SBC is an average mid major conference at best.  Toledo is #97 and Akron at #103 are our highest ranking non conference teams we have played. We usually play at least one money game at a P5 school and that was removed to make the schedule easier. You could go undefeated with our schedule and we would be still lucky to receive a few votes in the polls. Voters look at the teams you have beat at MU level of basketball.

If some of you are happy with that, then good for you. I would like to have a Marshall team do well against the big boys and win some games in the NIT or NCAA before I get excited.  A start would be to win the regular season title or the tourney, that would be the first big step for me.

Good post!!

[goherd24]

Let's please stop with the petty pissing contest. I have received several complaints about the unnecessary back and forth.

Kudos for not joining in this time, and being a better mod

[coalherd]

"Pissing contest?"  Heck, on a FAN BOARD, you naturally would expect varying "opinions"!  How's that a "pissing contest"?  Obviously, they range very widely, from the Coach D cheerleaders and boot lickers to those who loathe his "yuck-yuck" demeanor overall and his high school coaching ability!

[coalherd]

Hopefully, Danny's replacement will be someone with a long and experienced background in COLLEGE coaching, like the HC at GA Southern.  No more "wistful" hires which produce career HS coaches and someone not prepared to be a very successful D1 College coach.