Topic: Dillon

[Always THE HERD]

Don't see much discussion from "those that know"...(I certainly DON'T know anything)…...is he a potential starter in 19/20 or is he someone that just sees a little time here and there?

[herdorbust]

Don't see much discussion from "those that know"...(I certainly DON'T know anything)…...is he a potential starter in 19/20 or is he someone that just sees a little time here and there?

I love Dillon's game. He is actually much better than I was expecting. Tall 6'5" guard  that can handle and score. Has a good outside shot and is already as tough or tougher than anyone on the team.  We Know most likely Taylor will be the PG and Kinsey, George and Williams will be the 3-4-5 IMO at least starting the year. I wouldn't mind at all to see Dillon get that 2 spot because it gives us much more size. That would be 6'3"  6'5"  6'5"  6'7"  6'9"    Then have West, Iran, Cam and others off the bench.

[Always THE HERD]

I love Dillon's game. He is actually much better than I was expecting. Tall 6'5" guard  that can handle and score. Has a good outside shot and is already as tough or tougher than anyone on the team.  We Know most likely Taylor will be the PG and Kinsey, George and Williams will be the 3-4-5 IMO at least starting the year. I wouldn't mind at all to see Dillon get that 2 spot because it gives us much more size. That would be 6'3"  6'5"  6'5"  6'7"  6'9"    Then have West, Iran, Cam and others off the bench.

I've seen others state that they feel Cam will start......I hope to see additional comments regarding Dillon.

[herdorbust]

The only reason i said dillon over cam starting is outside shot. But cam can flat out play.

[herdfan129]

I love Dillon's game. He is actually much better than I was expecting. Tall 6'5" guard  that can handle and score. Has a good outside shot and is already as tough or tougher than anyone on the team.  We Know most likely Taylor will be the PG and Kinsey, George and Williams will be the 3-4-5 IMO at least starting the year. I wouldn't mind at all to see Dillon get that 2 spot because it gives us much more size. That would be 6'3"  6'5"  6'5"  6'7"  6'9"    Then have West, Iran, Cam and others off the bench.

West will always start for some unknown reason. I love his game and appreciate his effort but he should not be starting imo.

[MUther]

West will always start for some unknown reason. I love his game and appreciate his effort but he should not be starting imo.

If they think starting him can put the other team in a hole then I'm good with it.  History does not support that, though, as we dug a hole for ourselves most games early on.  If he's not scoring then he needs to be a turnover machine so others can score.  Solid bench player but not consistent enough unless things change.

[Herdmeister]

Danny has told us what he expects to happen but things can change, of course.
All I knos is we have great talent already here and with Dajour coming in. Assuming we get Marko as expected we should be just fine. Obviously we would love to have a man in the middle. That is still unsettled

[Always THE HERD]

Danny has told us what he expects to happen but things can change, of course.
All I knos is we have great talent already here and with Dajour coming in. Assuming we get Marko as expected we should be just fine. Obviously we would love to have a man in the middle. That is still unsettled

Do you see Dillon getting significant playing time Herdmeister?

[MUtim]

I’ve been a big West fan, but he has really faltered most of his sophomore year outside of defense.  Don’t know if I have ever seen anyone struggle with contested layups like he does.  Gets a steal then misses the layups.  He was bad at it last year and just plain horrendous this year.  I’m sure some of it had to do with his height, but we play against other similar sized guards and they don’t struggle like West.  I’m to the point where if he can’t improve offensively, then he needs to come off the bench.  He is a huge liability offensive wise.  I’d rather have Kinsey in that 3rd guard spot.  He is almost as good defensively, but much better offensively.
We still need that inside presence.  Sustic is horrible.  He looked below average in his tryout.  I was baffled when we offered.  Conversely, I thought Byers looked great in his try out, and am baffled why he struggled so much this year.  He’s a shooter who consistently passed up open 3’s. 
I think Dan is a great coach, but below average recruiter.  The fact he will only offer a hand full of recruits each year, comes back and bites him when we strike out on those few.  Then we are left trying to sign projects such as Sustic.

[Herdmeister]

Do you see Dillon getting significant playing time Herdmeister?

Frankly, we will have so much depth I'm not sure how many minutes anyone will get

[Always THE HERD]

I’ve been a big West fan, but he has really faltered most of his sophomore year outside of defense.  Don’t know if I have ever seen anyone struggle with contested layups like he does.  Gets a steal then misses the layups.  He was bad at it last year and just plain horrendous this year.  I’m sure some of it had to do with his height, but we play against other similar sized guards and they don’t struggle like West.  I’m to the point where if he can’t improve offensively, then he needs to come off the bench.  He is a huge liability offensive wise.  I’d rather have Kinsey in that 3rd guard spot.  He is almost as good defensively, but much better offensively.
We still need that inside presence.  Sustic is horrible.  He looked below average in his tryout.  I was baffled when we offered.  Conversely, I thought Byers looked great in his try out, and am baffled why he struggled so much this year.  He’s a shooter who consistently passed up open 3’s. 
I think Dan is a great coach, but below average recruiter.  The fact he will only offer a hand full of recruits each year, comes back and bites him when we strike out on those few.  Then we are left trying to sign projects such as Sustic.

D'Antonie is  responsible for the recruiting BUT CERTAINLY does NOT do ALL of the recruiting.

[herdorbust]

I’ve been a big West fan, but he has really faltered most of his sophomore year outside of defense.  Don’t know if I have ever seen anyone struggle with contested layups like he does.  Gets a steal then misses the layups.  He was bad at it last year and just plain horrendous this year.  I’m sure some of it had to do with his height, but we play against other similar sized guards and they don’t struggle like West.  I’m to the point where if he can’t improve offensively, then he needs to come off the bench.  He is a huge liability offensive wise.  I’d rather have Kinsey in that 3rd guard spot.  He is almost as good defensively, but much better offensively.
We still need that inside presence.  Sustic is horrible.  He looked below average in his tryout.  I was baffled when we offered.  Conversely, I thought Byers looked great in his try out, and am baffled why he struggled so much this year.  He’s a shooter who consistently passed up open 3’s. 
I think Dan is a great coach, but below average recruiter.  The fact he will only offer a hand full of recruits each year, comes back and bites him when we strike out on those few.  Then we are left trying to sign projects such as Sustic.i agree with this as well

I agree with this as well. I love west passion and work ethic. But we have got to get better at that position. Let him come off the bench for defense. You are correct beardin and griffin can get into the lane and finish and dish.

[MicDrass1]

We need to get more athletic in our guard play.  Pitts and Kane type guards.

[Collis P]

I agree with this as well. I love west passion and work ethic. But we have got to get better at that position. Let him come off the bench for defense. You are correct beardin and griffin can get into the lane and finish and dish.

I also agree that West should come off the bench.  What many seem to miss with his defense is he guards really hard in the front court but once his man gets past half court, he becomes a liability - most guards either shot over him or drive past him to the basket and out bigs get into foul trouble.  And as several have already mentioned, he has no offense.......  playing an avg of 35 minutes and only avg 2 or 3 points a game........ we need more........................................

[herdorbust]

I also agree that West should come off the bench.  What many seem to miss with his defense is he guards really hard in the front court but once his man gets past half court, he becomes a liability - most guards either shot over him or drive past him to the basket and out bigs get into foul trouble.  And as several have already mentioned, he has no offense.......  playing an avg of 35 minutes and only avg 2 or 3 points a game........ we need more........................................

Agree 100%. Gotta to get bigger and longer at the guard spots. You cant be a 2 guard and be 5’9” and have games of 0-6 points and no penetration. Has to be taylor, kinsey, dillon. But i just dont know if danny will do it.

[Always THE HERD]

Can we at least discuss Dillon in this post?

[herdorbust]

Can we at least discuss Dillon in this post?

Dillon is a very solid player. He has a lot going for him. Size 6’5” and football has made him tough. Football has also put him in some very high stress moments in his career. Good shooter from outside and can handle it really well for 6’5”. He will be a clutch type player down the road because of his demeaner. I like the kid a lot.

[Collis P]

Dillon is a very solid player. He has a lot going for him. Size 6’5” and football has made him tough. Football has also put him in some very high stress moments in his career. Good shooter from outside and can handle it really well for 6’5”. He will be a clutch type player down the road because of his demeaner. I like the kid a lot.

Dillon will increase his minutes as the season goes on - just because he will come to play (his a$$ off) -  he IMO will play several positions in DD system...............  I waited all year for someone on the team to dive for a loose ball....  Dillon will go after the 50/50  loose ball.........................................................................

[herdorbust]

Dillon will increase his minutes as the season goes on - just because he will come to play (his a$$ off) -  he IMO will play several positions in DD system...............  I waited all year for someone on the team to dive for a loose ball....  Dillon will go after the 50/50  loose ball.........................................................................

I love his attitude. Him and cam redshirting will be huge down the road. Could have used both this year but it will work out for the best.

[Always THE HERD]

Those are some good comments. Hope to read others too.

[The Right Stuff]

I like him a lot, however from what I have seen out of his quickness he may have trouble guarding some of the ultra quick guards that we have had to go up against this season.  Then again he may end up guarding a three where I think he could be more successful.

TRS
MU 71

[herdfifteen]

I like him a lot, however from what I have seen out of his quickness he may have trouble guarding some of the ultra quick guards that we have had to go up against this season.  Then again he may end up guarding a three where I think he could be more successful.
Interesting comment, I wonder if this is why he was not heavily recruited out of high school.
TRS
MU 71

[herdorbust]

He is as quick as virtual any 6’5” guy. And he is savy smart. He will be one of the top producers we have in a couple years and ill stand by that.