Topic: Strength Coach BA

[Johnnyherd]

That dude is a straight gangster, and needs so much more credit. I have heard stories of how he commands the team?s discipline.  He?s a drill sergeant, fixing attitudes and getting respect from these young men. 

He?s also at the top of the game as a strength coach.  He came from Alabama and they have the best strength staff in the nation, imo.

[herdloyal]

Sir yes Sir! Grew up around the Military in NC Dad served in WW2 and I served Honorably also during V War early 70?s in the USAF!

I believe serving duty in the military is essential for young men and women to restoring faith in our Republic! It serves as a means of disciplined relations building that is unmatched in civilian society. Talk about a melting pot from all parts of society coming together building a foundation of not only courage under fire both and an honest respect for one?s life and the lives of others.

Thank you Coach for helping our athletes to become all they can be!

[MicDrass1]

We are slow.  The players need to lift with fball and run with track coach

[BigJimslade]

The ST coachs impact on winning is impossible to quantify
They do a lot of cheerleading on game day
To represent these coaches in the above manner is a greatly exaggerated

[Johnnyherd]

The ST coachs impact on winning is impossible to quantify
They do a lot of cheerleading on game day
To represent these coaches in the above manner is a greatly exaggerated

You have no clue what you?re talking about, and it has been that way since you showed up on this board.   Ask a Marshall player.

[Johnnyherd]

Which coach spends the most time with the team, year round.  If you spend the most time with the players, then which coach has the most impact on the players?  Which coach is in charge of discipline/ work ethic, motivation and character building.

Amount of DUI?s x the domestic violence arrests x police batteries x players beating citizens, since BA showed up, = how much you know about what youre talking about.

[HerdEcon]

We are slow.  The players need to lift with fball and run with track coach

Speed has been an issue.  It is especially obvious along the OL and WR positions. 

[Johnnyherd]

I?ll also make the point, that we have ran the football and played stud defense.  When your offensive line pushes Notre Dame?s defense around, when your defense physically shuts down opposing teams offense for an entire game. 

Those are WEIGHT ROOM wins, culture wins, and motivation wins, make no mistake about it.

No team will ever go into games with a bunch of physically soft players (or mentally soft) and do those things. 

We rotated players on defense and remained physically stout, did that happen by accident?

All respect to the guys that bring up speed, and I?m sure you mean have 4.6 guys running 4.5?s, something along those lines, but if there is a strength coach that can purely teach speed, i would love to learn to be the fastest man in the world.

[MicDrass1]

Speed has been an issue.  It is especially obvious along the OL and WR positions.

Agree .... lb as well.  Pro Days have been slow.  Last year J Anderson outran our starting S on a VT td run.  Anderson might be 4.7

[MicDrass1]

I?ll also make the point, that we have ran the football and played stud defense.  When your offensive line pushes Notre Dame?s defense around, when your defense physically shuts down opposing teams offense for an entire game. 

Those are WEIGHT ROOM wins, culture wins, and motivation wins, make no mistake about it.

No team will ever go into games with a bunch of physically soft players (or mentally soft) and do those things. 

We rotated players on defense and remained physically stout, did that happen by accident?

All respect to the guys that bring up speed, and I?m sure you mean have 4.6 guys running 4.5?s, something along those lines, but if there is a strength coach that can purely teach speed, i would love to learn to be the fastest man in the world.

The HC needs to put the players on the track team.  The S&C coach does the other necessary work.  Teach these guys how to run.  300m indoor Track.   Take advantage of it if Herd has a good sprint coach.  4hrs a week they do T&F.  Other 16hrs can be football in winter

[Johnnyherd]

The HC needs to put the players on the track team.  The S&C coach does the other necessary work.  Teach these guys how to run.  300m indoor Track.   Take advantage of it if Herd has a good sprint coach.  4hrs a week they do T&F.  Other 16hrs can be football in winter

Micah Abrams and Rasheen Ali ran consistent 4.4?s.  Ali ran 4.4?s in 2023.  Micah ran 4.4 twice on pro day 2024.

So speed is a product of track coaching and teaching, not recruiting?

For 10 years, I?ve seen dozens posts about WRs top speed pointed as a critical component of our failures.

The best career receiver we?ve ever had Tommy Shuler ran a 4.8.  Jerry Rice ran a 4.73, Chris Carter & Larry Fitzgerald ran mid 4.6?s.  Slow Tight Ends and 5?10 white slot receivers flourish in the NFL passing game.

Among some coaches and franchises, the thinking has changed with WRs, routing running and body control create separation and catching the football every time and recognizing / understanding the holes in a defense are far more valuable than 40 time.  If you looked at the top 10 fastest WR in combine history, half or more played 0 or 1 season.

If you took the total amount of plays that are ran in a game and the figured the amount where a WR caught a pass that went 40 plus yards for a TD and did that for a season it would probably like 600 total plays offensive plays, 10 or less (probably more like 4) that were 40 yard.  Then flip it, how many plays did our defense play vs how many 40 yard runs by WRs we gave up.

Extremely fast WR1?s will always have extraordinary value in football because they put pressure on a defense to defend the deep threat.  On that note, we should absolutely sign as many Randy Mosses we can sign every single year.  We are never going to teach kids to be Randy Mosses.

[D1]

I was at Marshall when they did not have a full time strength coach for football and when the first full time strength coach joined the staff.  A good strength coach is a game changer for a program. 
To echo what's been said in some replies, the strength coach and the strength coach staff is with the players more than any other employee at Marshall.  Which is why a good one can take your team to the next level.

[Johnnyherd]

I was at Marshall when they did not have a full time strength coach for football and when the first full time strength coach joined the staff.  A good strength coach is a game changer for a program. 
To echo what's been said in some replies, the strength coach and the strength coach staff is with the players more than any other employee at Marshall.  Which is why a good one can take your team to the next level.

Thank you, it?s nice hearing from a man that has been there and knows what he is talking about, I appreciate it.

[MicDrass1]

Micah Abrams and Rasheen Ali ran consistent 4.4?s.  Ali ran 4.4?s in 2023.  Micah ran 4.4 twice on pro day 2024.

So speed is a product of track coaching and teaching, not recruiting?

For 10 years, I?ve seen dozens posts about WRs top speed pointed as a critical component of our failures.

The best career receiver we?ve ever had Tommy Shuler ran a 4.8.  Jerry Rice ran a 4.73, Chris Carter & Larry Fitzgerald ran mid 4.6?s.  Slow Tight Ends and 5?10 white slot receivers flourish in the NFL passing game.

Among some coaches and franchises, the thinking has changed with WRs, routing running and body control create separation and catching the football every time and recognizing / understanding the holes in a defense are far more valuable than 40 time.  If you looked at the top 10 fastest WR in combine history, half or more played 0 or 1 season.

If you took the total amount of plays that are ran in a game and the figured the amount where a WR caught a pass that went 40 plus yards for a TD and did that for a season it would probably like 600 total plays offensive plays, 10 or less (probably more like 4) that were 40 yard.  Then flip it, how many plays did our defense play vs how many 40 yard runs by WRs we gave up.

Extremely fast WR1?s will always have extraordinary value in football because they put pressure on a defense to defend the deep threat.  On that note, we should absolutely sign as many Randy Mosses we can sign every single year.  We are never going to teach kids to be Randy Mosses.

Fb players should be running track in the winter. 

[BigJimslade]

I?ll also make the point, that we have ran the football and played stud defense.  When your offensive line pushes Notre Dame?s defense around, when your defense physically shuts down opposing teams offense for an entire game. 

Those are WEIGHT ROOM wins, culture wins, and motivation wins, make no mistake about it.

No team will ever go into games with a bunch of physically soft players (or mentally soft) and do those things. 

We rotated players on defense and remained physically stout, did that happen by accident?

All respect to the guys that bring up speed, and I?m sure you mean have 4.6 guys running 4.5?s, something along those lines, but if there is a strength coach that can purely teach speed, i would love to learn to be the fastest man in the world.

You are speculating to fit your own narrative

Opinion

[Johnnyherd]

You are speculating to fit your own narrative

Opinion

Sometimes you have to do a little extra to separate evidence from ignorance

[Johnnyherd]

In sorry nobody has told you and you obviously still don?t understand, because you have constantly posted speculating? and opinion?

Little buddy. we are on a fan message board and the members on here post their thoughts and opinions and to constantly tell people their thoughts and opinions ARE thoughts and opinions, is like  a guy walking up to women and telling them they have boobies, a 1000 times.

Now you know

[s1uggo]

Micah Abrams and Rasheen Ali ran consistent 4.4?s.  Ali ran 4.4?s in 2023.  Micah ran 4.4 twice on pro day 2024.

So speed is a product of track coaching and teaching, not recruiting?

For 10 years, I?ve seen dozens posts about WRs top speed pointed as a critical component of our failures.

The best career receiver we?ve ever had Tommy Shuler ran a 4.8.  Jerry Rice ran a 4.73, Chris Carter & Larry Fitzgerald ran mid 4.6?s.  Slow Tight Ends and 5?10 white slot receivers flourish in the NFL passing game.

Among some coaches and franchises, the thinking has changed with WRs, routing running and body control create separation and catching the football every time and recognizing / understanding the holes in a defense are far more valuable than 40 time.  If you looked at the top 10 fastest WR in combine history, half or more played 0 or 1 season.

If you took the total amount of plays that are ran in a game and the figured the amount where a WR caught a pass that went 40 plus yards for a TD and did that for a season it would probably like 600 total plays offensive plays, 10 or less (probably more like 4) that were 40 yard.  Then flip it, how many plays did our defense play vs how many 40 yard runs by WRs we gave up.

Extremely fast WR1?s will always have extraordinary value in football because they put pressure on a defense to defend the deep threat.  On that note, we should absolutely sign as many Randy Mosses we can sign every single year.  We are never going to teach kids to be Randy Mosses.

Ali trained w the track coaches

[Johnnyherd]

Ali trained w the track coaches

Yeah he competed in the Sunbelt track Championships, I?m sure track helped him greatly.

He did pretty well as a freshman on the football field before he ran track too.

[MUther]

Are we really arguing as to whether the strength coach has an impact on a football team?  C'mon guys.  Remember the year we had the strength coach and lifting records were being broken all over the place.  Then the team came out on the field and had zero agility and flexibility and we sucked.  Strength and conditioning has a huge impact when done correctly and those guys are major motivators during games.  I don't see what the issue is.  Maybe the degree to which that impact occurs is debatable but that will also vary player to player.  But to suggest they don't matter is ludicrous.  If they didn't matter, every university would not be spending money to have one.  Duh.

[MicDrass1]

Good S&C coaches are a major advantage.  Combine that with T&F in the off season if sprint coach and facilities are good.  Major all around improvements made. 

[overherd1]

How long has he been in this position at Marshall?  Anyone know.  Thanks

[Johnnyherd]

How long has he been in this position at Marshall?  Anyone know.  Thanks

2021

[Johnnyherd]

Here?s a old article

https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-charles-huff-hiring-strength-coach-with-alabama-ties-for-a-key-hire-at-marshall

Sources: Charles Huff hiring strength coach with Alabama ties for a key hire at Marshall

JAN 20, 2021

It's a sentiment that has been shared a number of times by a number of different head coaches - the strength coach is the most important hire for a new staff.
   

[FilmJunky]

Are we really arguing as to whether the strength coach has an impact on a football team?  C'mon guys.  Remember the year we had the strength coach and lifting records were being broken all over the place.  Then the team came out on the field and had zero agility and flexibility and we sucked.  Strength and conditioning has a huge impact when done correctly and those guys are major motivators during games.  I don't see what the issue is.  Maybe the degree to which that impact occurs is debatable but that will also vary player to player.  But to suggest they don't matter is ludicrous.  If they didn't matter, every university would not be spending money to have one.  Duh.

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